Am 09.04.2004 um 02:10 schrieb Dan Ingalls:

> Hi, A and Bert -

Oh boy ... ROTFL  :-)

>>> That said, I'm a bit indifferent about including hard-core hacking
>>> stuff like VMMaker or Refactoring browser. I personally would include
>>> VMMaker but not RB, but I couldn't explain where to draw the line.
>>
>> VMMaker would be *extremely* powerful and deep if someone would just 
>> write a
>> little UI wrapper for the simulator so that you can run the simulator 
>> just
>> from the world's open menu. That'd be an "aha-effect" that people 
>> wouldn't
>> forget so fast... and besides it may actually lead to the simulator 
>> keeping
>> in sync with the other changes if it could be more easily executed 
>> and be
>> run casually.
>
> I agree, although it's kind of big now.  But it sure turns people's 
> heads around -- especially if you make a change.  Also, its presence 
> makes real on our claim of "you get it all" since, in that form, it 
> does carry the interpreter itself, with full source in the single 
> Squeak package.  It'sa perception thing, but isn't that part of what 
> "full" means?
>
> Interesting you should mention about a GUI for the VM.  I just started 
> on one yesterday!  It's going to be pretty simple, but way better than 
> nothing, and a place to start if someone wants to get serious.

Great! So VMMaker is in, officially ;-)

- Bert -