EToys and related messages on list

hjh-sqlist at lexdb.net hjh-sqlist at lexdb.net
Wed Dec 22 15:57:12 UTC 2004


Quoting Michael Latta <lattam at mac.com>:

> I have noticed quite a number of messages relating to EToys of the form 
> "Get the SqueakLand stuff"  or "Use the SqueakLand image", or "The 
> fixes are in the SqueakLand image".  So I have several questions:
> 
> 1) If EToys is only being maintained in the SqueakLand image should it 
> remain in Squeak?  If the version in Squeak does not work that well and 
> is not being maintained should it remain here?


> 2) How divergent are the two images?

Good questions. To me it is not clear at all why SqueakLand ever forked.
But on the other sides there are efforts to fold the enhancements back into the
main image.

> 3) I assume there are pieces of EToys that are very deep in the system, 
> and it has some pretty cool aspects, but is the version in Squeak 
> calcifying for lack of attention?

This is a real danger.

> 4) Can we encourage the SqueakLand group to use packages so we can 
> share work more easily?

?? How ??

> 5) Have the SqueakLand people made radically different choices in their 
> image?

I am curious as well about the answer.

 
> I would hate to see Squeak become the attic of old ideas.  If things do 
> not work well in this environment they should be packaged up and 
> removed.  At the same time I would not want to have to use image A for 
> one feature and image B for another, so the better solution would be to 
> find some way to keep the features working in both places.  But, I know 
> how hard it is to support the same code in multiple lines of 
> development, and for volunteers to do that is almost too much to ask.
> 
> So, just trying to understand where things stand.
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
> 


As I understand Michael Ruegger and Ned Konz are working hard at bringing the
Squeakland image Etoy fixes and additions back to the 3.8gamma image.
(and to the packages).

Maybe some things are still missing in 3.8gamma? Or people tryining out things
with 3.8 do not use the most recent one?


Hannes

Ref: 
http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3832
on swiki (Release plan for 3.8) shows the various 3.8 flavours.







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