[despammed] Squeak Internet-Based Training

ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Mon Feb 2 11:14:24 UTC 2004


Take Smalltalk by Example on my web page
this is a book with which you will learn a lot (at least I read it too 
late, I got a lot before)
http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~ducasse/FreeBooks.html


On 2 févr. 04, at 10:47, Hrvoje Blazevic wrote:

> On a subject of learning Smalltalk / Squeak:
>
> What would be the recommendation for a good introductory book for 
> learning Smalltalk using Squeak environment, or at least having 
> sufficient similarity with Squeak, not to cause unnecessary 
> frustration?
>
> I should have probably asked this some time ago, because after 
> checking on Amazon, I did buy A Quick Trip to ObjectLand, and 
> Object-Oriented Design with Multimedia Applications.
>
> I honestly can't figure out who is the "Quick Trip ..." written for. 
> After reading 160 pages I realized that I'm; a) bored to death, and b) 
> still can't write a program that is more substantial then 2 + 2.
>
> Even given the fact that the book obviously concentrates more on the 
> Squeak environment than Smalltalk language, I find the style, and 
> methods (like the exercise where the reader is asked to write down all 
> menu choices to remember them later) unacceptable.
>
>
> As for the "Object-Oriented Design..." I had much higher hopes for it, 
> but it appears to be inconsistent. It looked pretty well up to the 
> page 59, (much better that the Quick Trip). Unfortunately the first 
> exercise (9) on page 59 requests implementation of tree traversal 
> procedures, without ever mentioning tree, recursion ... before. Well 
> -- even SICP doesn't do that!
>
> Maybe I'm rushing in my judgment of this book, so I'll probably return 
> to reading it later, but there must be a better Smalltalk book out 
> there -- so, which is it?
>
> -- Hrvoje
>
>




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