Am 10.02.2004 um 13:09 schrieb Mike Flippin:

> Providing both the standard Squeak UI and that ability would seem to 
> me to be the best way to make Squeak popular and accessible to those 
> of us more familiar with languages like Java, C and Python and their 
> respective environments.
>

And it would make it more easier for Squeakers to use Squeak for doing 
"professional" payed development when just
the native (or native looking) GUI is required. And I think that's why 
Göran is working on GTK binding: After a month of
EJB, you'l try everything to make it just go away ;-)

For your talk: It might be interesting to look not only at how to do 
stuff with Squeak that's simple to do with other
environments. The really interesting side of Squeak shows as soon as 
people do stuff that is very hard or even
impossible to do with Java or C++.

One example is Seaside:   http://beta4.com/seaside2/
It's impossible to implement Seaside in Java. Just that.

Another example on a different level is OpenCroquet: 
http://www.opencroquet.org

         Marcus


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