How to improve Squeak

stéphane ducasse ducasse at iam.unibe.ch
Wed Jul 14 09:04:21 UTC 2004


Hi Jack


Something that I would do if I would be you would be to take the online 
books
available on my web page and check all the stupid examples on 
collection and turn them into
tests.  Then check the comments because this way you would have already 
scenarios
and comments can rot faster than tests.

Stef

On 14 juil. 04, at 01:25, jhkeel wrote:

> --- In squeak at yahoogroups.com, goran.krampe at b... wrote:
>> "jhkeel" <jhkeel at f...> wrote:
>>> --- In squeak at yahoogroups.com, lex at c... wrote:
>>>> If anything,
>>>> my suggestion would be for individuals to start volunteering as 
>>>> stewards
>>>> of the image(s);
>>>
>>> Lex,
>>>
>>> Many of us have volunteered.  I offered to steward "collections" for 
>>> TFNR over 7
> months
>>> ago and nothing has come of it.  We are just waiting for someone to 
>>> give us the go
> ahead
>>> on that long delayed project.
>>>
>>> Jack
>>
>> Yes, I know. I lost all momentum on that unfortunately. Perhaps the 
>> time
>> is ripe again.
>>
>> We should probably just start small. But let us get this damn 3.7 out
>> the door first, should be done this week. Still busy with the SM stuff
>> here...
>>
>> regards, Göran
>
> I understand and I certainly wasn't complaining about your work on 
> this front - there is
> only so much you can do and you do a lot.  But it is difficult to help 
> you "insiders" when
> the rest of us aren't sure where things stand.  I was just letting you 
> know that we are still
> out here waiting to help if only given the chance.
>
> And
>> From: danielv at tx.technion.ac.il
>
>> Ok, go ahead.
>> I propose the following first objectives:.....
> <bunch of reasonable ideas/>
>> You might think other goals are more worthy, then go ahead. But don't
>> just wait.
>
>> Daniel Vainsencher
>
> Okay, thanks, I won't wait.  Curious, I didn't see your name on the 
> task force list :)
>
> However, I have been thinking about this for several months (i.e., not 
> just waiting) and
> your list of tasks (and any others Squeakers wish to provide)  will be 
> added to my existing
> list of tasks and considered in due course and within priority.
>
> I seem to be from the Stéphane Ducasse school of thought though, and 
> my first order of
> business might be to
> 1. Get in contact with Göran, Peter van Rooijen, and Richard O'Keefe 
> (others who were
> interested in Collections)
> 2. add/improve Class and Method documentation (so we know what we've 
> got and to see
> if our changes actually will make it into the system),
> 3. add unit tests (so we know what works, how it performs, and, later, 
> what we break, slow
> down, or speed up),
> 4. accumulate ISO, VW, VA, Blue Book and other info so we know how it 
> might fit into the
> world at large,
> 5. generate UML diagrams or other documentation so others may 
> understand it too and
> provide informed comments on our proposed future directions
> 6. then we'll consider what we're going to do *to* it but do it in a 
> way that nothing that is
> running now breaks.
>
> Jack
>
>
>
>




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