Hi all!

"Bill Schwab" <BSchwab at anest.ufl.edu> wrote:
> Far be it from me to stand in the way of Squeak's growing a good connection to native widgets, but I submit that it is not all that essential, and would in fact be a step backwards in some ways.  However, if it is an option with no overhead when it's not used, then it's a good thing.


Personally I just think choice is good per definition. Right now lots of
potential Squeakers aren't Squeaking because even if it hurts to admit
it - the Gtk+ stuff is actually leaps ahead of Morphic from a
"make-a-polished-desktop-app-as-they-look-and-feel-today" perspective.
Sure, I love Morphic - and all the principles behind it. I don't love
the messy code, but that is another story. Still - it isn't even close
to the polish of current Gtk+. Really.

Now before you guys start pointing me at screenshots on minnow or the
exobox screenshots or god knows whatever stuff that I have already seen
and know about - there is no conflict here. If I want to do some really
cool Into-The-Future-stuff then I pick up Morphic and Connectors and run
with it! But if I want to build an app like say Evolution or the Gimp or
whatever - then sorry, the Morphic of today doesn't cut it.

There are of course two roads ahead:

1. Make Morphic better and add widgets etc on top of it so that it
eventually blows Gtk+ out of the water.

2. Make Squeak being able to use Gtk+ (or other widget kits).

I think we should pursue BOTH roads. But people - try to be a tad
realistic here - the Squeak community is tiny compared to the resources
behind Gtk+. And that simply matters. Road number 2 seems to be a much,
much easier road to take if we want this ability soon.

regards, Göran