"just hobby-squeakers" (was "Proposal for Squeak 3.8")

Craig Latta craig at netjam.org
Mon Oct 11 00:26:13 UTC 2004


	(Oops, sorry, I meant to make a new thread the first time.)

Hi Marcus--

> If you look at the structure now, we see that there are some Guides,
> not doing that much actually, because they are (mostly) just
> hobby-squeakers.

        Ha! I have to disagree with you there, on both counts. First,
I'm doing a lot of work making a minimal system. For over a year I've
asked for discussion and reported progress, and I've made some releases.
While there have been some significant individual exceptions (see, for
example, the Squat acknowledgements) the general response to all of
these things has been, er, minimal. :)  From my point of view, it seems
like people are just sitting back waiting for a finished result. That's
still tenable; the part that concerns me is the lack of discussion about
desired features and integration timing. I guess the consensus is that
it's not worth discussing until there is a finished result (which may or
not do what people want :).

        Second, I don't think it's at all clear that paid Squeakers
contribute more or less than unpaid ones (in any dimension: time,
energy, code quality, etc.), and the very question is pointless.
Belittling either group is unconstructive; please don't go there. :)


-C

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Craig Latta
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