Hi craig

I think that having Squat working on more recent version would help 
people having a look at it.

Then what marcus wants to say is that been a cleaning woman is not fun 
and that everybody can participate,
even if this is surely much more exciting to build be next 3D or 
whatever system.

I'm sad to see a guy like marcus psending his time on cleaning and 
making sure that changes do not get lost while
he could do much  better and cool stuff to get a really cool compiler 
framework. (Marcus started to work and soon
ByteSurgeon will be available and you will see what I mean)

Stef

On 11 oct. 04, at 02:23, Craig Latta wrote:

>
> Hi Marcus--
>
>> If you look at the structure now, we see that there are some Guides,
>> not doing that much actually, because they are (mostly) just
>> hobby-squeakers.
>
> 	Ha! I have to disagree with you there, on both counts. First, I'm 
> doing
> a lot of work making a minimal system. For over a year I've asked for
> discussion and reported progress, and I've made some releases. While
> there have been some significant individual exceptions (see, for
> example, the Squat acknowledgements) the general response to all of
> these things has been, er, minimal. :)  From my point of view, it seems
> like people are just sitting back waiting for a finished result. That's
> still tenable; the part that concerns me is the lack of discussion 
> about
> desired features and integration timing. I guess the consensus is that
> it's not worth discussing until there is a finished result (which may 
> or
> not do what people want :).
>
> 	Second, I don't think it's at all clear that paid Squeakers contribute
> more or less than unpaid ones (in any dimension: time, energy, code
> quality, etc.), and the very question is pointless. Belittling either
> group is unconstructive; please don't go there. :)
>
>
> -C
>
> --
> Craig Latta
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