Karl,

Just saying that something 'sucks' is less than helpful.  If you really
care please try to find some time to sit down and carefully explain what
sucks about it in detail.

Ken

On Fri, 2005-04-22 at 16:52 +0200, karl wrote:
> stéphane ducasse wrote:
> 
> > but we are all poor idiots dave.
> > Believe me, me the first :)
> >
> > But your point is valid, history is important.
> >
> I hate to be a party pooper, but Mantis sucks!
> I used BFAV quite a lot and liked to be using Squeak to fix it self.
> Now I don't know the process and I have lost most interest in it :-(
> Karl
> 
> > On 22 avr. 05, at 12:54, David T. Lewis wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 11:27:12AM -0500, Ken Causey wrote:
> >>
> >>> Primarily because we janitors are human and the BFAV database serves 
> >>> for
> >>> now as a useful backup to help us keep track of what issues we have and
> >>> have not properly handled.  If we miss one then it is very easy to 
> >>> catch
> >>> by looking in BFAV.  Secondarily, there are still issues in BFAV that
> >>> should be handled in the old way.  To do that harvesters need to be 
> >>> able
> >>> to close the issue, mark them as approved, mark them as being in an
> >>> update etc.  All this relies on BFAV being able to receive new reports
> >>> by email.
> >>
> >>
> >> Keeping BFAV available is a good thing. There are lots of issues and
> >> concerns with history documented in BFAV and not (yet) in Mantis. As
> >> an example, bug #989 in Mantis reports a problem that is a show-stopper
> >> for Tweak. The original root problem dated back at least a couple of
> >> years, and some poor idiot had provided an incorrect fix that ultimately
> >> resulted in the show-stopper for Tweak. The history of this was all
> >> in BFAV, and the idiot in question was able to look it up in BFAV and
> >> provide enough background to help sort things out.
> >>
> >> The moral of the story is that we have a lot of old issues that need
> >> to be managed, and BFAV is still useful even if the issue management
> >> process has moved to Mantis.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
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