> No doubt and I'm sure Tim doesn't argue against this but it 
> does not mean people like it and don't want any changes in 
> usability or the look. This is not an OS discussion.

Which is why I questioned the goal of the enhancements, I love what's been done so far, but without a specific goal in mind, one can argue endlessly about what should or shouldn't be.

> Win can easily be tweaked quite a bit and especially 
> programmers do that a lot so it would be hard to even define 
> the target market.

Agreed, my XP PC looks like a Mac, but you can only tweak windows so far, and it still feels like windows.