Hi Fellows,

The MorphicSplitters project is a first step towards this.

MorphicSplitters started with an Etoys-free Morphic image I made on 2004, 
based on 3.7. It was really easier to understand and could have been a good 
base for complete Morphic overhaul. At that time I was decided to fork 
Squeak for my own projects. To me having a clean Morphic is even more 
valuable that having the fixes and enhancements of the official version. (If 
somebody wants it, let me know).

But then, many people showed interest on this work. It became clear that 
although it was hard, it would be possible do this cleaning in the official 
version. So the MorphicSplitters project was born.

The mid-term objective of MorphicSplitters is to be able to unload Etoys 
from a standard image and have a smaller Morphic that works properly. The 
long term objective is to remove Etoys and other optional packages that use 
Morphic from the image, and have them in SqueakMap. And when all Etoys users 
switch to Tweak, just leave Etoys behind.

Anybody who wants to help with this project should wait until ToolBuilder 
and the first version of MorphicSplitters get into the official version. 
Then, cleaning Morphic could perhaps be more of a community work.

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "stéphane ducasse" <ducasse at iam.unibe.ch>
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Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 4:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Q] Speed comparison 2.8 vs 3.8


Hi gunther


I would not switch from dolphin to morphic, just for morphic.
But it depends what you are doing.

Morphic deserves a massive clean (may be coming back to pre etoy
would be a good move).
When Morph was only 300 methods. Now the problem is that people with
the know how
will not do it. Also the concurrency model of morphic is not really
good.

Stef


On 25 août 05, at 19:26, Günther Schmidt wrote:


> Tim,
>
> so, if the *right* people are working on it, Morphic can be made to  go 
> wooooosh?
>
> I've been thinking of switching from Dolphin to Squeak for a couple  of 
> reasons, Morphic in particular, because I just can't see how you  could do 
> the things you can do in Morphic as easily in Dolphin.
>
> There have been posts on this topic for some time now, so I guess  it's 
> something that resists fixing?
>
> Well in short, I'm asking whether it's reasonable to presume that  this 
> issue will be resolved any time soon or rather not to depend  on that?
>
> Günther
>
>
>
>





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