On 26 août 05, at 19:14, Juan Vuletich wrote:

> Hi Fellows,
>
> The MorphicSplitters project is a first step towards this.
>
> MorphicSplitters started with an Etoys-free Morphic image I made on  
> 2004, based on 3.7. It was really easier to understand and could  
> have been a good base for complete Morphic overhaul. At that time I  
> was decided to fork Squeak for my own projects. To me having a  
> clean Morphic is even more valuable that having the fixes and  
> enhancements of the official version. (If somebody wants it, let me  
> know).

Juan
if you take the time to work and produce MC file for the 3.9 alpha  
version, we will pay attention that your changes get incorporated.

> But then, many people showed interest on this work. It became clear  
> that although it was hard, it would be possible do this cleaning in  
> the official version. So the MorphicSplitters project was born.
>
> The mid-term objective of MorphicSplitters is to be able to unload  
> Etoys from a standard image and have a smaller Morphic that works  
> properly.

which is an excellent idea.

> The long term objective is to remove Etoys and other optional  
> packages that use Morphic from the image, and have them in  
> SqueakMap. And when all Etoys users switch to Tweak, just leave  
> Etoys behind.
>
> Anybody who wants to help with this project should wait until  
> ToolBuilder and the first version of MorphicSplitters get into the  
> official version. Then, cleaning Morphic could perhaps be more of a  
> community work.

marcus worked on toolBuilder but got stuck because the produced image  
was strange.
This is coming.

Stef

>
> Cheers,
> Juan Vuletich
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "stéphane ducasse"  
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> Hi gunther
>
>
> I would not switch from dolphin to morphic, just for morphic.
> But it depends what you are doing.
>
> Morphic deserves a massive clean (may be coming back to pre etoy
> would be a good move).
> When Morph was only 300 methods. Now the problem is that people with
> the know how
> will not do it. Also the concurrency model of morphic is not really
> good.
>
> Stef
>
>
> On 25 août 05, at 19:26, Günther Schmidt wrote:
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>> Tim,
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>> so, if the *right* people are working on it, Morphic can be made  
>> to  go wooooosh?
>>
>> I've been thinking of switching from Dolphin to Squeak for a  
>> couple  of reasons, Morphic in particular, because I just can't  
>> see how you  could do the things you can do in Morphic as easily  
>> in Dolphin.
>>
>> There have been posts on this topic for some time now, so I guess   
>> it's something that resists fixing?
>>
>> Well in short, I'm asking whether it's reasonable to presume that   
>> this issue will be resolved any time soon or rather not to depend   
>> on that?
>>
>> Günther
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