Adrian Lienhard wrote:
> 
> Since there were no concernes raised and there is quite some pending  
> work to get pushed in 3.9a, we decided to make the traitss changes go  
> in now.
> 

No concerns were raised??? Probably you don't mean what you say ;-)

Here are the concerns (again):

- 98% of all Squeak users want Tweak and not Traits. Imagine the amount 
of anger that will come over you if they find out that Traits delays 
Tweak or makes it even "somehow" persistently unavailable to them.

- Smalltalk's class hierarchy and inherited inst vars help programmers 
to understand their programs. The "dualistic mode of modeling" with 
traits and classes may proof being counterproductive to Smalltalk 
programming. The examples so far were not encouraging. In short, using 
Traits may result too often in code that is harder to understand, to 
write and to maintain - the opposite of what is claimed. Remember, not 
only skilled researchers use their own invention but many more mere 
mortal programmers *try to achieve* something.

You produced a current standalone image with Traits. Fine! Please let 
people try it now. Let those who are interested find out about Traits 
themselves.

This takes time, and that is OK. Any trial of ramming it violently into 
the main Squeak at this time looks only as if you researchers fear 
yourselves that in the end it comes out that Traits in its current form 
is not the right thing for Smalltalk.

Traits may have potential as it is now, or maybe it needs some changes. 
Perhaps a more radical altered language is appropriate. Let us find out 
with time!

Regards,
Martin