Hi Guenther:

I agree with you about the really cool look of Exobox, but was the only one 
squeak-look that I've seen that really qualify to regular customers (in my 
opinion).

However, all that I've seen about Exobox were the screenshots, never I've 
seen the app nor the code, to can figure out how many works means to produce 
that sort of UI. I tend to associate Morphic UI with long time to develop, 
but may be my fault because I'm not an expert in Morphic.

In any case I think that a tool to automate the hard work of build UIs is 
needed in Squeak.......yes, I know, we can develop one, but isn't a trivial 
thing, and that task is (by now) out of my scope of knowledgment and time.

I'm interested also in know if Tweak is pointed to this use or not or, to 
better says, what is the target of Tweak project (I would ask in Tweak 
list.....).

Well, it's all for now.

Regads.
gsa.


"Guenther Schmidt" <gue.schmidt at web.de> escribió en el mensaje 
news:cu5vhp$l7$1 at sea.gmane.org...
> Dear German,
>
> thanks for your 2 cents, see I do want a different style of UI for regular 
> business apps, because I think the widgets currently used for them are a 
> bit dated and boring.
>
> I caught a glimpse of what a *business app* could look like when I saw 
> screenshots from the Exobox project, which unfortunately are no longer 
> available.
>
> Guenther
>
> Germán S. Arduino schrieb:
>> I agree with you opinion but, by other hand, I think that with Morphic is 
>> very hard the way to develop UIs in a "business application" context (At 
>> least the sort of ui that the most of customers are requesting) besides 
>> the long time necessary to develop the new morphs.
>>
>> Having explored several alternatives, and not sure yet about the scope of 
>> Tweak, I'm now playing with wxSqueak and thinking seriously in use it in 
>> "typical" business app.
>>
>> I would prefer another method, Squeak native, all inside the image, but 
>> not existing this thing, I think that wxSqueak is a real alternative to 
>> jump Squeak to the business applications world.
>>
>> wxSqueak: http://homepage.mac.com/rgayvert/wxsqueak.html
>>
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>> Cheers.
>> gsa.
>>
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>> "Ruedi Steinmann" <ruedisteinmann at gmx.net> escribió en el mensaje 
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>>
>>>I've started using morphic a few weeks ago. There is hardly any
>>>documentation around. You'll spend much time on figuring out how things
>>>work. But at some time things suddenly become easier and then everything
>>>is possible.
>>>Ruedi
>>>
>>>On Sat, 2005-02-05 at 01:15, Guenther Schmidt wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>I've been using Dolphin for creating apps with a rather trivial business
>>>>logic, and it was a lot of fun, smalltalk is just great.
>>>>
>>>>However since I'll hardly ever write a killer app, I just want my apps
>>>>at least to look cool.
>>>>I've seen some screenshots from the Exobox project (which unfortunately
>>>>I can't find anymore) and that's exactly the kind of UI I want to 
>>>>implement.
>>>>
>>>>But that's pretty hard with Dolphin as it's using standard windows
>>>>widgets, I reckon I could try ActiveX, but that would take me out of
>>>>smalltalk.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How *is* Morphic, I mean how is it usable for writing, well business
>>>>apps with a great UI?
>>>>
>>>>What I've seen is Morpic and Squeak used for Etoys, drawing and such but
>>>>I'm not sure if it's suitable for business apps. There is the bank
>>>>account tutorial and that's indeed a business app, but only showing
>>>>business logic, and no UI.
>>>>
>>>>Your 2 cents very appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>Günther
>>>>
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