Hi Craig,

> Actually, that isn't true everywhere in the computer world. In the Lisp 
> and Smalltalk communities, for example, people have understood 
> "environment" correctly (and in the way you're using "ambience") for a 
> very long time. The meaning is very much like that evoked by 
> "environmentalists" when describing the natural world.

What are the fruits of this kind of thinking?
I am insterested in tracking the results of this POV,
 specially in Smalltalk.
Today I must confess that Smalltalk is considered "a language"
 for most of the smalltalkers, and I have read papers and
 proposals talking about "evolution" that really make me feel
 that nothing has been realized outside the OO way.

Sorry for my english, but I you can understand
 what I am saying is enough for me.

cheers,
Ale.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Latta" <craig at netjam.org>
To: <squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 10:24 PM
Subject: re: instead of "ambience" (was "another balloon picture")


> 
>  > I do not use the world "environment" because it is undestood as a set
>  > of tools (like in IDE). A kind so suitcase (or medium) to survive when
>  > exposed to computers. :-)
> 
> Actually, that isn't true everywhere in the computer world. In the Lisp 
> and Smalltalk communities, for example, people have understood 
> "environment" correctly (and in the way you're using "ambience") for a 
> very long time. The meaning is very much like that evoked by 
> "environmentalists" when describing the natural world.
> 
> And you probably want to say "probably" or "actually" instead of 
> "provably". :)
> 
>  > [I] really appreciate your comments!
> 
> Sure thing. :)
> 
> 
> best wishes,
> 
> -C
> 
> --
> Craig Latta
> improvisational musical informaticist
> craig at netjam.org
> www.netjam.org
> [|] Proceed for Truth!
> 
>