> You see Yoshiki this is big kick in our ... to make sure that what we  
> will deliver
> is at the quality we dream about :) and squeakers like you deserve. Else
> this would be an embarasment for us.

There's certainly nothing to be embarrassed about. I've read the papers  
well enough to answer a lot of the questions that have come up (like  
flattening making traits transparent, and that the image could conceivably  
shrink). For those of you who haven't, it's not a lot of material, and  
it's good reading.

I first learned to use objects in 1989 or 1990. I've used them  
subsequently in every job where it was possible to do so. But it only took  
a few weeks to realize OO's shortcomings. Traits is not a panacaea  
obviously, but it addresses a lot of those shortcomings--and does so in a  
way that's (to my eye) compatible with Smalltalk's elegance.

I don't know who Goran's "trait-haters" are but, so far, I haven't seen  
much feedback from anyone who appears to "get it".