On Fri, 25 Feb 2005 12:09:43 +0100, Martin Wirblat <sql.mawi at t-link.de>  
wrote:
> that what the perfect rip out of context.
>
If it was that way, my apologies. I didn't understand it that way.

> If Collections can be refactored so that the code is better  
> understandable it is a plus for Traits (the minus would be the speed  
> loss).

It's not an 'if'. It's a fact. I haven't read the original Traits paper  
for years, but I still remember my excitement about refactoring that  
beast. Not only will a huge hierarchy be refactored - you'll end up with  
gobs of reusable code. So, if you want to build a class that has  
'Set-ness', you can simply grab the corresponding Trait instead of having  
to create a Set ivar and delegate all over the place. Set will be reduced  
of just a sample class that has 'Set-ness'.

Anyway, let's stop flogging this horse, I think we've done an adequate job  
of killing it. Let's declare concensus on the fact that yes, it looks  
promising (for some value of 'promising' that differs from skeptical  
interest to outright enthousiasm), but yes, we need to hold back our final  
judgement and decision until a new version descents from the Swiss Alps.  
And personally, I'm eagerly awaiting that version...