Retiring BFAV

Ken Causey ken at kencausey.com
Sat Feb 26 15:12:38 UTC 2005


On Sat, 2005-02-26 at 08:51 +0100, stéphane ducasse wrote:
> Hi Ken
> 
> I think that the first things would be to change the send to the list 
> feature
> with a BIG warning telling" ARE YOU SHOULD THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO USE 
> MANTIS"

That is something to think about.  We plan to handle moving posts from
the list to Mantis though for at least a few months so I'm not worried
about it at this point.

> With the experience we have on squeaksource (you may contact lukas and 
> adrian)
> they build squeaksource (version .9) in three four days, it would be 
> worth to see if we can use seaside
> and that we can script the applications to send bug report/upload code 
> there directly.
> But as this is your time I will use what you propose.

My biggest issue is with trying to build a complex tool before we really
understand how the process is going to work.  BFAV was built to support
the harvesting process.  Even with that in mind it had to be molded over
time to try to fit the reality of the process rather than the ideal.
But I'm afraid in the end it was not successful because largely the
harvesting process has not been successful.

With that in mind I think we need to develop and experience a working
process before anyone spends a lot of time on tools that don't get used
or at best are never quite right because we built the tool before we
understood the problem.

> I think that what was really great with BFAV is that I could browse the 
> code and load it from Squeak itself.
> That was great compared with the first horrible interface we had for 
> harvesting (which was already better
> than a simple mailinglist)

With one additional step (click on the link in the report and save the
attachment) you have this through the FileList.  Don't you agree?
(Although one thing you end up with if you aren't careful is a folder
full of attachments without any organization so no it's not ideal.)

Ken

> Stef

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