www.squeak.org finally updated
Andreas Raab
andreas.raab at gmx.de
Mon Jul 4 13:56:47 UTC 2005
Hi Avi -
> I agree with you in general, but I don't think that (b) isn't fixable -
> or at least, I would claim that it currently needs fixing. Look at the
> very first sentence on the current squeak.org: "With the Squeak
> programming system, we have made some delightful and powerful
> educational applets. " For someone coming to Squeak looking to use it
> for business, that will be the first sentence and quite possibly the
> last they read - not because there's anything wrong with educational
> applets (there's everything right with them, in fact), but because that
> person will assume that this tool is not aimed at them and go elsewhere.
I agree. And please understand me correctly - I am not saying that
Squeak.org doesn't need updating. I'm saying the contrary, I'm saying we
need up-to-date, compelling content for the new site. But I'm also
saying that the content that's up on the new site *right now* is not as
good as what's up on Squeak.org *right now*. And the discussion about
how "ugly", "crappy" or outright "bad" the current website is seems to
be exclusively focused on the "childish look" rather than anything
that's content related.
> For the other half:
>
>>> Because may be squeak.org is dead anyway.
>>
>> Only once we start ignoring the contents for the looks of the site.
>
> The contents have been ignored, apparently, for about 5 years: the
> "Where is Squeak Headed" section claims to be "coming soon" and offers
> "Entering 2000" as the latest material. Anyone would think that Squeak
> has been stagnant or abandoned since the days of superbowl ads for
> online petfood... we need to fix this if we're going to have any
> credibility.
Precisely! *That* is the stuff we need to be looking at and argue about.
Cheers,
- Andreas
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