Too annoyed with Zope: a Squeak alternative?

Cees De Groot cdegroot at
Sun May 8 22:56:08 UTC 2005

HttpView and Seaside. That plus the built-in functionality of Comanche
probably fills every need you may have. It's a very powerful triad,
and I'm working on a Grand Unified Theory that will show how to
elegantly combine them ;-)

Zope sucks, it's too complicated. I've been through the whole learning
curve, it's too damn steep and when you get there it wasn't worth the

On 5/9/05, John Hinsley <johnhinsley at> wrote:
> That's it really: I'd sooner do without the old Apache/MySQL/php triad,
> but Zope is both overly complicated and, well, pretty inscrutable: it's
> also rather boring!

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