On 21 mai 05, at 4:12, Milan Zimmermann wrote:

> Stef, this is my "report"
>
> Install:
>
> 1) Windows 2000, Service Pack 4:
> ==============================
>
> First I did not read instructions:
>
>     - uninstalled any Squeak from system
>     - downloaded ReadyPCyyy.zip
>     - unziped to c:\temp\stefsbots
>     - double clicked on C:\temp\stefsbots\ReadyPC\squeak.exe
>     - the above action opened the "bot system", looks good
>     - clicked on the yellow "Bot" and typed "go: 100" - error .. ok  
> i realized it
> is a class
>     - clicked on the Blue Bot and typed "go: 100" - worked :)
>
> Then I read instructions, a few notes:
>
>     - the names (e.g. the ReadyPCyyy.zip filename) are somewhat  
> different than in
> docs on the website. You may want to name it "Bots.zip" or similar.
>     - dropping the image on executable works nicely, i never tried  
> that with
> squeak, but then i don't use windows much.
>
> A few Notes:
> ------------
>
>     - i am not completely sure running fullscreen does not confuse  
> beginners on
> windows because it hides the "Start" toolbar.
>     - you may want to add some text on the system: "to quit (or to  
> do anything),
> right-click anywhere on the system window..."
>     - i asked my kids and they said they don't know what WinZip is,  
> and that they
> do not think they have it in school. Maybe that is an indication it  
> would
> make sense to wrap your zip as installable file to increase the  
> available
> audience ...
>         - in fact i tried one Windows installer:
> http://nsis.sourceforge.net/download/ (i am not associated with  
> them in any
> way :) )
>         - you can use their zip2exe feature - it takes a while, but  
> it creates
> ReadyPC-yyyyy.exe that can be "installed" simply by double-clicking  
> at it and
> it is smaller - i tried it. No WinZip required.

Excellent I will do that!

>         - with some playing around, there is probably a way to make  
> an executable
> that installs an icon for Bots on your desktop. Let me know if  
> you'd need
> help.
>
>
> 2) SuSE 8.2, I do have VM 3.8 installed
> ========================================
>
>     - using KDE
>     - used the same ReadyPCyyy.zip
>     - un-arked ReadyPCyyy.zip to $HOME/squeak/botinc
>     - created desktop icon named Bots, properties==>"cd
> $HOME/squeak/botinc/ReadyPC;squeak Ready.image"
>         - starts up, works as well :)
>
> It's really nice, we played a bit (my girls and i) with your Bots a  
> probably 2
> years ago .. but now they are teenagers  so I could not make them  
> play :( and
> there's little time right now, as they are leaving in 2 weeks for  
> the summer
> so i will have more time then, if you need someone to play with it  
> in more
> detail and report, let me know...

thanks a lot
show them what the art teacher and my wife are doing with the  
environment= the gallery
on the website because some of them are beautiful


>
> Later Milan
>
>
> On May 18, 2005 02:52 pm, stéphane ducasse wrote:
>
>> Hi guys
>>
>> My book will be release soon so I would like to know if some of  
>> you can
>> have a look at my wiki
>> download the zip and try them on their machines. This would really be
>> great and help me.
>>
>> http://smallwiki.unibe.ch/botsinc/
>>
>> I will fix the menubar soon...
>>
>> Stef
>>
>
>
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