On 25 nov. 05, at 21:45, Chris Nelson wrote:

> Stef,
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> After browsing the Squeak Map, I found a package that already  
> implements the DICT protocol! Ram Krishnan has a implemented  
> DictionaryBrowser which works quite well in my standard Squeak 3.8.  
> So the hard work has already been done. :) I'm going to poke around  
> the classes and see how Ram implemented this.
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> Since Squeak is being targeted to and used by children and those of  
> us with imperfect language skills, maybe someone could evaluate  
> this a replacement for some of the WordNet functionality in the  
> standard Squeak distribution if it is appropriate.

sure please propose something and we will evaluate it.

Stef

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> Chris
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> On Nov 23, 2005, at 3:02 AM, stéphane ducasse wrote:
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>> good.
>> Keep us informed and do not hesitate to ask any questions that you  
>> think may be silly :)
>>
>> Stef
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>> On 22 nov. 05, at 23:39, Chris Nelson wrote:
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>>> Marcus,
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>>> Thanks for your reply.
>>>
>>> After further examination of the code, I did determine that the  
>>> current WordNet methods do rely on "page-scraping" to get the  
>>> responses. It appears that most WordNet clients download the  
>>> database and and the APIs provided by the site to offer a  
>>> independent WordNet service instead of querying the site. I do  
>>> agree that the current WordNet code is broken and should probably  
>>> be removed from Squeak. It would be nice to have something to  
>>> replace it with. I did some research and found there is a online  
>>> dictionary protocol, DICT as described in RFC 2229 and some  
>>> projects that support this:
>>>
>>> http://www.dict.org/links.html
>>> http://www.freedict.org/en/
>>>
>>> Many of the DICT servers online also offer WordNet access in  
>>> addition to other resources. There are free clients and servers  
>>> available and I did realize that I do have the OmniDictionary  
>>> client and the DICTatoro server on my local OS X computer.  So  
>>> instead of replicating what the WordNet class in Squeak 3.8 is  
>>> now, I may try to see if I can create a DICT client with similar  
>>> functionality. Wish me luck, since I'm new to Smalltalk, OO and  
>>> network protocols. I will probably examine the code from some of  
>>> the Python client, since that is the language I'm most familiar  
>>> with.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On Nov 22, 2005, at 6:15 AM, Marcus Denker wrote:
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>>>
>>>> Hello,
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>>>> because the wordnet code is broken, I have removed it from 3.9a.
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>>>> If you are interested, you could take the code from 3.8 and put it
>>>> on squeaksource to be developed further as a standalone package.
>>>> (i did not do that as nobody seemed to care about wordnet).
>>>>
>>>>       Marcus
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>>>> On 21.11.2005, at 23:47, Chris Nelson wrote:
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>>>>> Hi all!
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm new to Squeak, so I'm going thru the environment and the  
>>>>> browser and trying random stuff that interest me.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tried using WordNet to get a definition and Scamper gets  
>>>>> redirected to a new URL. I don't think this is a bug, just  
>>>>> something that needs to be updated and tested.
>>>>>
>>>>> The new URL is http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn and it  
>>>>> appears form the page uses has different variables.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris Nelson, aka xradionut
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