Flash Support In Squeak
Ron Teitelbaum
HORonT at Earthlink.net
Sat Oct 8 02:07:51 UTC 2005
[21:52] darron: I assume you want to process the .swf file?
[21:52] darron: or maybe create a .swf file?
[21:52] Its Me Ron T: I think they want to do both
[21:52] darron: the file format is open, I sent you a download link to it
[21:52] darron: as well as libraries that already do this
[21:52] Its Me Ron T: wonderfull
[21:52] darron: in .NET, Java, etc
[21:52] Its Me Ron T: Thank you.
[21:52] darron: there aren't any smalltalk ones as far as I know
[21:52] Its Me Ron T: so no reason we can't do it too then
[21:52] darron: but it's a matter of porting, not reinventing the wheel
[21:52] darron: yeah
[21:52] Its Me Ron T: very cool
[21:53] darron: and if smalltalk can invoke native c code, I would say just
"extern" functions and use the ming library
[21:53] Its Me Ron T: yeah it can
[21:53] darron: then you dont have to write anything :-)
[21:53] Its Me Ron T: that's even better
[21:53] darron: http://ming.sourceforge.net/
[21:53] darron: I think ming only writes .swf, not reads it
[21:54] darron: but yeah, plenty of stuff out there...
Hi Ron,
Are you trying to create a smalltalk program to process the .swf file
format? The person who said the file format hasn't been updated since
version 3 doesn't know what their talking about.. The file format for
version 7 can be found here:
http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flash/flash_file_format_specification.pdf
There is a version 8 available that was just released, but the format
documentation hasn't quite caught up yet.
Also, there are a lot of libraries already available for creating / parsing
.swf files ( so you don't have to reinvent the wheel, you can just port to
smalltalk as necessary if you'd like ). Check out the listings here ( under
command line tools, compilers, etc )
http://www.osflash.org/doku.php?id=open_source_flash_projects
I hope this was helpful.. let me know if I can help anymore. :-)
-d
Ron at USMedRec.com wrote:
>From: Ron Teitelbaum
>Message: Hey Darron,
>
>I'm working on squeak smalltalk and someone send this message to the user
group. Is it true, or could you help get some documentation?
>
>==============
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
>[mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of
>Andreas Raab
>Sent: Friday, October 07, 2005 5:46 PM
>To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
>Subject: Re: Flash Support in Squeak
>
>The first problem with better support is that you need to find proper
>documentation for Flash >3. SWF used to be "open" but Macromedia
>silently stopped releasing new specs and rather had developers sign up
>for a Flash development kit. And when you do that, you sign away all
>rights to ever again create another Flash importer/reader. They only
>want you to write SWF, not to read it.
>
>Cheers,
> - Andreas
>
>Sachin Desai wrote:
>
>
>>Are there plans on improving the level of Flash support in Squeak? I
>>believe the currently supported version is 3.
>>
>>If there are no plans, I'd be interested in finding out what it'd
>>take to do this and possibly help out.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>
>>-- Sachin.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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