Chris Muller wrote:

>I've had a vague notion about this for a while, but still find it difficult to
>articulate.  Let me try..
>
>The key point you mentioned is, we need a way for the process to "support
>itself".  For this to happen, I think we need to find a process that converts
>"selfish energy" into the desired results for the community.
>
>The tough part is how to do it.  I don't have a solid a solution, but my
>"intuition" suggests these characteristics of the solution:
>
>  - distributed harvestation rather than centralized like now
>  - harvesting effort required from submitter, the one who has a vested
>interest in seeing it in base Squeak
>  - harvesting approvals done by community "acceptance or rejectance"
>
>Stop pushing them through Mantis or any other external tool.  Instead, we write
>a program that integrates into Squeak that allows anyone to submit directly
>from the alpha image.  These submissions appear on everyones list.  Later the
>"download count" (or whatever) for that submission indicates the relative
>interest, as well as community member comments and up or down votes.  The
>community accepts or rejects it as a whole and, as soon as it is "accepted"
>then it becomes part of the alpha image that auto-loads for the
>non-participants.
>
>I'm sorry this is very pie-in-the-sky.  It would require some initial
>programming work, but Squeak has what is needed to implement it.  Once
>operational, the continuous "expense" that is harvesting would be divided
>according to the desire and energy of those wanting to impose their
>improvements.
>
>Regards,
> Chris
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I guess the core idea of having "what you do in Mantis" built into 
squeak could be a good thing, cause the system could then automatically 
include whatever information that is needed for whatever I want to 
report/(publish) etc... Since I am stupid (or lazy) and don't 
know/understand/get_comfortable with Mantis, there is a layer of 
interface that is stopping me from doing error reporting (or fixing when 
I get better).

chrisp