Hi Stephane,

Going back to your original message, I believe MC is not the tool for
harvesting. WRT MorphicSplitters, using just change sets, and loading the
cs in the update stream would have been much easier.

MC is the tool for managing packages that are external and not too big.

I know we should be offering help or ideas for a different harvesting model,
but I can't offer any of these. I'm sorry.

Cheers,
Juan Vuletich

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "stéphane ducasse" <ducasse at iam.unibe.ch>
To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers list"
<squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
Sent: Monday, October 10, 2005 1:53 PM
Subject: Need to do something


> Hi guys
>
> this is a first alarm of a real and deep problem, I start to be
> personally exhausted to
> harvest and try to use MC for doing that. May be after all I'm too
> stupid.
>
> We are trying the debug a process to harvest and build the image and  at
> the same
> time harvest changes and this is TEDIOUS because we do not have the  time
> to
> learn and fix if necessary MC to improve the process. Avi is also  really
> busy and
> using MC is really slow (when you load and reload squeak even on my  fast
> machine).
>
> Now the problem is simple: if we do not do it, ***nobody*** will do it.
> And I start to be tired, working in two places, managing two groups  of
> researchers,
> teaching, living in two countries........... So we should find a  solution
> else the process
> will burn marcus too like in the past and after we are fucked up. Let  us
> face it.
>
> I thought that it could be a work for the foundation but we do not  want
> to open
> a war or destroy the community by proposing that someone get payed to
> help us
> to fix the process/problem. Once I asked Ned if he could help and  been
> payed
> but again we do not know how to proceed.
>
> So if you have any suggestion think twice before but now there is  still
> time to say
> something and make sure that the process support itself. But right  now I
> do not see how
> we can continue like that. Seriously, I have fun to clean, harvest  fixes
> but
> not like that and we need help.
>
> Stef
>
>
>
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