On Sep 5, 2005, at 11:49 AM, David P Harris wrote:

> Brian Rice wrote:
>> On Sep 4, 2005, at 2:22 PM, David P Harris wrote:
>>> Brian Rice wrote:
>>>> Did you look at Slate Smalltalk? What did you think of it?
>>> Slate is at: http://slate.tunes.org/
>>> Slate looks very interesting and I have wanted to explore it.    
>>> However, it remains hard to use (to me) in the text-only form,  
>>> and  I was wondering if the graphical environment has been  
>>> developed (yet)?
>> Not yet. That's why we don't announce releases here. The  
>> rendering  framework works, but I don't have enough people to  
>> maintain the core  and have time to develop the entire UI - a self- 
>> perpetuating problem  since contributors self-limit themselves  
>> when there aren't enough  easy tools to use. I'll work through  
>> this, but it takes time.
> Yes, same-old :-(
> Is the rendering framework in the available code?  Does it render?  
> Might need to take a deeper look ;-)
>
> David

Yes, it's in src/ui/ and there is a "backend" API bridge to SDL in  
src/ui/SDL/port.slate (ignore the other files there - they were  
contributed by a relatively confused fellow). Someone else has  
claimed creating an OpenGL backend, but has not shown us the code for  
it.

Re: the actual tools to port, I wanted to start with OmniBrowser, for  
obvious reasons of extensibility, but right now I need to focus on  
our equivalent/generalization of ImageSegments.

There is also an ncurses interface in src/plugins/smart-console/  
which actually works on Windows terminals as well (wrapping raw  
windows api's), but it is very slightly not stable enough for  
requiring its use in the released configuration, so our tools-usage  
of it is still just a variant of the REPL with command-line  
completion, history, and such.

--
-Brian