[ANN] Gjallar release "Eldrimner" 0.1

goran at krampe.se goran at krampe.se
Fri Aug 11 20:46:00 UTC 2006


Hi Yanni!

Yanni Chiu <yanni at rogers.com> wrote:
> goran at krampe.se wrote:
> >>I downloaded the zip file, ran some doIt's from the workspace,
> >>and then the login appeared in the browser. (There were a few
> >>missteps along the way, but nothing serious).
> > 
> > Please tell and I can tweak these things to get it as painless as
> > possible, even if its details. :)
> 
> 1) When I started the image, it was unclear whether the server
> was already started. So I tried to browse anyway, and got no
> connection.

Ok, yes - you can save the image with everything running - but I wanted
to distribute a "clean" image.
But I will make sure people knows that.
 
> 2) Looking at the various doIt's and the method in the open
> class browser, I chose something that said it would start the
> server. It did, but I got a stack trace in the web browser
> (something about a connection - maybe it said Magma, but that
> was my guess).

Right, it should say clearer that you need to initializeDatabase first.

> When I'd earlier browsed the files that were
> unzipped, it didn't seem to have any database files.

Exactly, it will be created etc from scratch if missing.

> So, the
> next step was to create the database. I chose to create the
> database with sample data, waiting patiently for the hourglass
> to stop fading in/out. (A message that database creation had
> completed would be useful).

Good idea since this will always be run from the image anyway.

> 3) Bingo! I got a login, but I didn't know a usrid/pwd to use.

Ehh, ok, I will make a clearer pointer to the Swiki for this kind of
info.
And/or add it to the texts in the image.

> I tried the "forgot your password" link. Then I noticed that
> the image seemed frozen. Although the image was not responsive,

Ok, will look into that. Hmmm.

> the website was still functioning. After about two minutes of
> occasional cmd-. attempts, I eventually got a debugger. Then I
> browsed the code to find a usrid/pwd, and eventually found them.
> 
> Suggestion: a single readme window (the method in the open class
> browser had code that looked useful as doIt steps, so it was a
> distraction). The readme would just have steps 1, 2, 3, etc.,
> which would get you a login page, and tell you a usrid/pwd to
> use. A swiki link might be good, but it could be out of sync
> with any particular image. A few steps in the actual image might
> be better (and it turns out that it was just a few simple steps).

I agree - good feedback, thanks. I will fix it.

regards, Göran



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