Dear JJ,

	I see your point and agree about the positive inpact that OLPC may have in the
creation of wealth.

	But for supporting intelligent altruistic projects that are not hipocritical nor
asistencialist ones, is common knowledge that one cannot count with the established
interest (aka establishment). 

	Every thinking creature knows that they have an enormous responsibility on that.
But that does not matters for the rest of us. You can spend your entire life waiting
support like that from them. I may clarify here that I'm not completely convinced that
they may be as smart as they think they are. But in practice their are more concern about
the short term cashflow and status quo than the long term ones.

	If you analize their position any altruistic moral interest they may have, that
could lead them to any altruist, ponderated and intelligent, initiative, may just be
entering in direct conflic with their financial or status quo interests. 

	Their environment will pass to see a motivated person too critic in a too *risky*
way, and they will just do everything to persuade him to *be reasonable again*. Human
history is full of this.

	I think that only a deeply touched and strong ego in a position of power that can
permanently make asistance (mainly throug reeducation and explanation) to it's environment
can do that.

	But right now wich interest do you think that will dominate the scene?

	Anyway I'm optimistic. The OLPC will open a lot of oportunities to intelligent
childs that has not abundant resources. This also means a lot of childs that has not a
notebook and not a PS3 nor a Xbox nor a Nintendo, but that they could have a linux with a
Squeak and other intellectual tools and time to use them. This dont let me doubts that in
a short time this oportunities will overcome in number of *facts* (creation of wealth) the
*opinions* of people that are too hurry to give their selfish-based, and in consequence,
small opinions (concentration of wealth).

	We just can wait. Just let it five years and see...

	cheers,

Sebastian

> -----Original Message-----
> From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org 
> [mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On 
> Behalf Of J J
> Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:12 PM
> To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> Subject: Re: For $150, Third-World Laptop Stirs a Big Debate
> 
> >From: Blake <blake at kingdomrpg.com>
> >Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers 
> >list<squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> >To: "The general-purpose Squeak developers 
> >list"<squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> >Subject: Re: For $150, Third-World Laptop Stirs a Big Debate
> >Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:29:36 -0800
> >
> >On Fri, 01 Dec 2006 11:47:04 -0800, Darius Clarke 
> <socinian at gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>To get a better view of history _and_ the future... replace 
> the words 
> >>"computer" & "laptop" with either of the words "book" or 
> "codex" and 
> >>see how history repeats itself.
> >>
> >>Would you agree Alan Kay?
> >
> >That was my exact thought.
> >
> >I love reading the Slashdot crowd whenever--WHENEVER--the 
> OLPC comes up.
> >
> >Talk about not being able to see anything beyond one's preconceived 
> >notions.
> >
> >The brickbats thrown by Intel and MS seem entirely based on them not 
> >being involved. Predictably childish.
> >
> 
> And predictably stupid.  As Bill Gates and Co. have no 
> concerns in this 
> world other then money, the best thing that could possibly 
> happen for them 
> is for more of the world to get educated and start producing 
> wealth (which 
> turns into money sooner or later, and windows/intel is 
> largely the only real 
> alternative for personal computing at the moment).  But 
> instead they focus 
> on the fact that they don't get to tax *this* transaction.
> 
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