On Sun, 08 Jan 2006 23:43:28 -0800, Cees De Groot <cdegroot at gmail.com>  
wrote:

> I'm quite close to concluding that (something like) Spoon might be the
> only way out here.

Well, I keep coming to the same conclusion, but I don't wanna sound like a  
broken record. (And I'm not sure what I can do to help it along.)