Hi,

Carbon is a C API whereas Cocoa is Objective C. The Squeak VM is a C
program so its natural to use Carbon.

Torsten

On Mon, 9 Jan 2006, Davide Varvello wrote:

> Thanks Bert,
>  I'll keep an eye on the BlueS' high level API, but, please,  tell me more, what are the issues you see in using Cocoa instead of Carbon?
> More opinions from other squeakers are welcome, of course.
> TIA
>  Davide
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org on behalf of Bert Freudenberg
> Sent: Mon 1/9/2006 10:29 AM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: Re: Squeak and bluetooth
>
>
>
> Sure. AFAIK the BlueZ lib, which is the base for the Linux BlueS
> implementation, is Linux-only, so you couldn't use it anyway.
>
> But the BlueS project consists of two parts. First, the high-level
> BlueS API which should be very much platform-independent:
>
>         http://lisa.math.uni-magdeburg.de/~eldeh/squeak/blues/doc/
> kernel_sample_session.txt
>
> and secondly, the low-level Linux implementation, wrapping the Linux
> library:
>
>         http://lisa.math.uni-magdeburg.de/~eldeh/squeak/blues/doc/
> linux_wrapper_sample_session.txt
>
> It would be very nice if your implementation would also conform to
> the high-level interface, so we would have the two major platforms
> covered ;-)
>
> As for your questions, yes, FFI is just fine for this. And I'd
> recommend Carbon.
>
> For a bit of working recent Carbon FFI code have a look at
>
>         http://source.impara.de/Sophie.html
>
> The "Files-Locations" package uses FFI calls to locate system folders.
>
> - Bert -
>
> Am 08.01.2006 um 22:21 schrieb Davide Varvello:
>
> > Hi Bert,
> >  Yes I read about BlueS, but I'd prefer to have a libraty ready to
> > use and not to have to compile it. Therefore I'd like to use the
> > IOBluetoothUI.framework as this example in ruby: http://tinyurl.com/
> > 7ltl5
> >
> > Thanks
> >  Davide
> >
> > ________________________________
> >
> > From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org on behalf of
> > Bert Freudenberg
> > Sent: Sun 1/8/2006 9:30 PM
> > To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> > Subject: Re: Squeak and bluetooth
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Am 08.01.2006 um 21:02 schrieb Davide Varvello:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>  I'd like to interface Squeak, running on my mac, with a bluetooth
> >> device, but I'm a bit confused on what kind of approach to choose.
> >> First: FFI or plugins? I read FFI is quite slow compared to
> >> plugins, but if I have to call an os library and the rate of calls
> >> are not very frequent, probably FFI is a better choice (correct me
> >> if I'm wrong)
> >> Second: Carbon or Cocoa? As I read from the list and the swiki,
> >> there is a bridge, from Avi, to connect to Cocoa, but I didn't
> >> understand if I can use it from FFI.
> >> Finally: I tried the examples of FFI in a 3.8 image for MacOSX (ex.
> >> MacPixPatPtr, MacRect, ...), but the code use an obsolete module,
> >> InterfaceLib, instead of Carbon.framework (see http://
> >> minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/5585), I changed the first with the
> >> second and I had no errors, but nothing displayed.
> >>  Suggestions?
> >
> > Are you aware of BlueS?
> >
> >         http://minnow.cc.gatech.edu/squeak/3321
> >
> > - Bert -
>
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