Squeak Maintainence and Condensed Sources

Peace Jerome peace_the_dreamer at yahoo.com
Tue Jul 25 04:15:53 UTC 2006


Squeak Maintainence and Condensed Sources

Hi Marcus,

Thank you for your first reply to 
Condensed Sources vs. Squeak Maintainence

To restate the essesnce of my concern:

I believe a great deal of code will rot and squeak
will become a lot more fragile than it already is if
you compress sources now in the process of finalizing
3.9.

I understand your concern about the changes file going
over its limit. 

I also understand the great deal of effort you and
stef have put it to 3.9 to date. And that getting
things done has largely relied on your time and
effort.  Easy to implement solutions would be
appreciated I imagine?

First the task of getting a 3.10 with all changes from
3.9 would start with '3.9a with all changes from 3.0'
that Doug Way (bless his heart) produced after I said
please three times in one post.

Second condensed sources should come at the beginning
of an alpha cycle not at an end.  So one alternative
is to condense sources with the first version of 3.9
alpha (or the 3.8 version just before that name
change.  And produce a 3.9 with all changes from 3.8
(condensed) source. That would not be as nice but it
would at least be acceptable.

The full changes versions have never been for users
they have been for developers. Their usefulness is
very high or I wouldn’t be trying so hard to make my
point.

A code history project is both far in the future and
risky (it might not come off).  Do you really want
Squeak maintainence to limp along until when and if it
comes about? 

The easier you make it for me (and others) to find the
bugs the quicker, better, and more permanently we can
fix them.

You and Stef have been given arbitrary authority to
determine how 3.9 gets made.  The consequences of how
you choose to use that authority and what decisions
you make affects the whole community.

I see several of those decisions as increasing the
brittleness of squeak and I am voicing my concerns. I
ask only that you do your best to address them.

Yours in service, -- Jerome Peace






__________________________________________________
Do You Yahoo!?
Tired of spam?  Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
http://mail.yahoo.com 



More information about the Squeak-dev mailing list