On Mon, Sep 25, 2006 at 07:36:48PM +0000, J J wrote:
> >From: Matthew Fulmer <tapplek at gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers 
> >list<squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
> >To: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
> >Subject: Squeak Beginners Tutorial
> >Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2006 01:20:06 -0700
> >
> >Seaside. I am on the Morphic side, and Bakki and Chris seem to
> >be on the Seaside side (Jason and Derek have not expressed an
> >opinion).
> 
> I would like to see the tutorial stretch the legs of the language (like the 
> recipies I showed) and then end up with some application to show for it.  
> But I would not want to have the first tutorial get extremely deep in 
> Morphic or Seaside.  I think both topics are rich enough for their own 
> documentation.
> 
> But if I had to pick between the two, my money is on seaside.  I think 
> there is something too what Paul Graham (sp) said about the future and web 
> based software (can anyone thing of any morphic apps out there with users?  
> I can already think of several seaside apps).

My opinion is that Croquet will eventually replace most of the
current web apps, and the web will go back to what it was meant to
be: a place to publish documents.

> But like I say, just going through the tools, the language and advanced 
> features of the language is going to be a mouthful.  Keep in mind; the 
> environment that just comes with Squeak for free is what Java, C++, .et al 
> go shopping for (sometimes for quite some time) and don't wind up with 
> something as powerful.  That's worth spending a little time on.

You are right. I will not cover animated morphs in the tutorial
(unless it is so easy that it is too good to pass up).
The tutorial will just cover widgets, windows, and layout.

-- 
Matthew Fulmer