[ANN] 7061 = Squeak 3.9 final
Marcus Denker
denker at iam.unibe.ch
Tue Sep 26 07:45:56 UTC 2006
On 26.09.2006, at 01:22, tim Rowledge wrote:
> Well I've just downloaded this and I'm very disappointed. I
> appreciate how much work is involved and how many sleepless nights
> it must have caused Marcus and Stef but....
If those things are the one you find to be very disappointed, I take
it as a compliment: The changes in 3.9 are so huge that I, honestly,
am happy if these
are the problems you find!
> This simply isn't an image to release to the general public. The
> two Workspaces need to be edited and de-typo'd.
>
Please do.
> There are now two prefer
> ences tools, neither of which handle font settings or display
> setings. If one is going to replace an old tool with a new one it
> ought to noticeably improve upon it. And, of course, actually
> *replace* it.
Please submit a patch. I once looked for some time into removing the
old Preferences. Sadly the code is so bad that even removing it is *a
lot* of work. The new
preferences are an improvement on the old ones, so I fail to see why
we should not have added them. Isn't this the old Squeak pattern of
"doing nothing because
something more perfect is thinkable" at work?
The new Preferences e.g. integrate the HTTP-Proxy preference. That
alone makes them worth *a lot*. No code to be executed for proxy
settings...
> Why is a package of omnibrowser included but not, so far as I can
> tell, hooked up to use? Not to mention it appears to be non-
> functional; on my machine (a very fast dualcore mac) I opened an
> OBSystemBrowser with #openOnClass: Object, pressed the 'hierarchy'
> button and got bored after more than a minute of waiting for a new
> browser.
>
It is not default because it's new. If people start to use it more,
fix bugs, integrate it a bit more, then we can remove the old one.
Don't you think you would be more
pissed if there would only be OB then the state now? People do use
OmniBrowser, though. The way to do it is to set it as the Default
Browser (see window
menu of the Browser. I works quite well, but OB needs to be used a
lot more before we can remove the old Browser.
> What are
> Morphic-Models
> 39Deprecated
> FlexibleVocabularies-Info
This is a package from Connectors that was a pre-requisit for adding
the squeakland changesets. I did once take the time to rename all
categories
(as this package makes no sense, it's a patch that Ned managed as an
mcz package). But at some point it crept back in (I think the Morpic
Teams
big first "make morphic to packages" changes, or even maybe one of
the >150 SqueakLand changesets).
Someone should have re-invested the time to move all methods from
this package into the morphic packages. I didn't, you did not. So is
it my fault?
Morphic-Models is an auto-generated category by some strange code
that should be removed.
39Deprecated contains all methods that where deprecated in 3.9a, it's
supposed to be there in 3.9 and removed in 3.10a
> ScriptLoader
Scriptloader contains the machinary to update from the repository.
This was how it was done in 3.9, for 3.10, I think people will
again have a look at the tools that Bert did at Impara and retire
Scriptloader. So why should this be removed from 3.9? Don't
we want to do a 3.9.1?
Marcus
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