Monticello 2 question (sort of)
J J
azreal1977 at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 27 19:24:45 UTC 2007
So, I guess this was a dumb question?
I am curious because I was considering testing some code myself to make a
current generation change management system based on the change set
mechanism that Squeak already has. But if Monticello 2 is already going to
do this then I'll just wait and focus on other things.
>From: "J J" <azreal1977 at hotmail.com>
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>Subject: Monticello 2 question (sort of)
>Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 04:43:10 +0000
>
>Hi all,
>
>I was just thinking about Monticello 2 and wondering what the strategy for
>creating revisions is.
>
>In darcs (and afaik all modern revision systems) the way it works is, I
>have a local repository and there can be any number of remote repositories.
> So if we had one central repository called e.g. SqueakSource, after the
>initial push, my local repository is in sync with SqueakSource. I can now
>make changes and publish them locally. If I push these changes to the
>SqueakSource repository all the system has to do is see if the revision has
>not changed, and if it hasn't apply all my change sets to get back in sync
>and so on.
>
>It strikes me that Squeak can do this very easily. We already have change
>sets that actually seem very good. So we could do the same thing; when I
>do an initial publish to the central repository I am in sync. Now the
>system creates a new change set for all changes I do from this point
>forward. Later on when I try to sync again, if the version number has not
>changed the system need only apply the change sets I have made since the
>sync took place. If the version number has changed, a simple conflict
>resolution can be done.
>
>The key point here is; it looks to me like the current Monticello is
>actually scanning the whole image to find out what has changed. This is
>not necessary as all that information and more can be retrieved via the
>existing change set mechanism. The only change would need to be that after
>you publish to a repository, Monticello needs to rename your "current"
>change set. If it doesn't then the next time you publish it wont see any
>change sets that aren't present in the repository and decide no work was
>done. Or it can look if the dates are different, but then it would have to
>scan the whole change set to see what is different. It saves processing by
>simply controlling the change set names.
>
>Another advantage is, we can easily have the darcs ability to only apply
>certain change sets. Using the change set tools in the image I can create
>new change sets and push different changes into those, so that if I made a
>big change I can split it up into several different change sets. Then I
>would have the ability to say e.g. only publish the first one and the last,
>but skip the middle.
>
>What do you all think? Is this already what it's doing and I just didn't
>notice? Thoughts?
>
>Thanks,
>Jason
>
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