Could we fix the web site

Todd Blanchard tblanchard at mac.com
Sat Jan 6 20:40:51 UTC 2007


Actually - these are the guys to catch:
http://www.rubyonrails.org/
On Jan 6, 2007, at 12:21 PM, J J wrote:

>
> Well what do other people do?  Haskell is pretty popular these  
> days.  Here is their site:
> http://haskell.org
>
>
>
>> From: Joshua Gargus <schwa at fastmail.us>
>> Reply-To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list<squeak- 
>> dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list<squeak- 
>> dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org>
>> Subject: Re: Could we fix the web site
>> Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2007 12:00:05 -0800
>>
>> Stephane makes a good point.  If we want http://squeak.org to be  
>> the  public face of Squeak to the outside world, then the news  
>> feeds  should absolutely not appear at the very top.  Instead, the  
>> Welcome!  section should come first to give a basic understanding  
>> of the entire  site. That much is clear (right?  if not, why?)
>>
>> We could then go on to debate some more ambiguous decisions.  For   
>> example, within the news section, I would put the squeak.org- 
>> specific  "Posted News" above the external "News Feeds".  However,  
>> I have other  things to do this fine Saturday than to push hard on  
>> that point, or  similar ones.
>>
>> Happy weekend Squeaking,
>> Josh
>>
>>
>> On Jan 6, 2007, at 10:28 AM, stephane ducasse wrote:
>>
>>> Karl
>>>
>>> really I'm quite annoyed. I cannot tell you all the story behind  
>>> my  mail but this is not a simple idiot remark.
>>> Can't we get the welcome paragraph in the first place?
>>> Should I really totally boycott Squeak?
>>> Don't you understand that we are in a world where people   
>>> communicate and judge on form?
>>>
>>> News Feed as a title of the first item of the page that  
>>> describes  squeak is not a smart choice. For somehow not knowing  
>>> at all
>>> what squeak is about and that does not really care about getting   
>>> involved but just want to give a glance.
>>>
>>> Then there are 5 typos in the following text. So the fact that  
>>> we  do not control (or may be somebody edited the text and the  
>>> list by  hand)
>>>  what is published there would push us to be cautious and not  
>>> put  it up front.
>>>
>>> 	"Croquet Edit and Create 3d Objects
>>> Howard Stearns reciently replyed to a question from Mathieu. I   
>>> thought I’d reporduce his response here. Howard give a lot of  
>>> very  good information about Croquet support for third party  
>>> tools...."
>>>
>>> So what I suggest is to swap the welcome and the news feeds. I   
>>> think that this is important.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>> On 6 janv. 07, at 18:53, Karl wrote:
>>>
>>>> stephane ducasse wrote:
>>>>> Hi karl
>>>>>
>>>>> my point is about the place of the news on the web site. I  
>>>>> think  that we need something that anybody (and certainly someone
>>>>> evaluating me can understand). When people click on my cv on  
>>>>> the  squeak web site, it should be great.
>>>>> And the news section should not be the top items. Or I can  
>>>>> remove  all the links I have on my sites and cv to squeak.org  
>>>>> but this
>>>>> would be sad because imagine a person not knowing anything  
>>>>> about  squeak going to the site and reading the first paragraph  
>>>>> right now.
>>>> The first paragraph is about the OLPC which has Squeak as part  
>>>> of  it's software. I would consider that a very big news item.
>>>> The frontpage got very static and nobody updated it and nobody   
>>>> wants to lead the web team so this was a good solution for us,   
>>>> since a webpage that newer changes is a dead webpage, at least  
>>>> in  my book.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Stef
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> The news feed is from news.squeak.org so if you join the news   
>>>>>> team you will be able to post directly.
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not want. I have nothing against news and I have nothing  
>>>>> to  say.
>>>> I find that hard to believe ;-)
>>>> Karl
>>>>>
>>>>>> Typos and other standards of posting to the news feed should   
>>>>>> probably be addressed to the news team.
>>>>>> Karl
>>>>>>
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