You misunderstand.  Squeak is the better product .  I tried RoR and  
found it to be like the stone ages. But RoR has GREAT marketing and  
evangelism.  Which is why they have bigger mindshare.

We could learn something from them there.  Who is the website for?   
Current Squeakers?  I think not so much.  You want to attract new  
users with it.  New users don't care about the news - they don't  
understand it.  It is for insiders and it makes us look clubby and  
not really welcoming.

I think the Squeak site looks gorgeous - really pretty - but the  
order of presentation isn't so good if you are wanting to draw people  
in.

On Jan 7, 2007, at 3:43 AM, Cees de Groot wrote:

> On 1/6/07, Todd Blanchard <tblanchard at mac.com> wrote:
>> Actually - these are the guys to catch:
>> http://www.rubyonrails.org/
>
> To catch?
>
> In case I interpret that as them being competition - I don't see RoR
> that way. Finally a feasible, well-documented, well-thought-out web
> framework in a dynamic language that doesn't suck as much as Perl :-).
> We should be linking to them instead of viewing them as competition!
>
> /me mumbles something of standing on the shoulders of giants and  
> wanders away
>