> So, are there any reason the download link at the top right should not
> point to squeak-dev regularly-updated and useful-for-developer image ?

Yes, there are very good reasons NOT to do this.  It disrupts a
"universal starting point" that everyone uses to describe how to get
to a particular Squeak-destination.  If a regularly-updated squeak-dev
becomes the main download link, how do you easily describe to a newbie
how to get to a particular destination when the starting point is a
moving target?

Making the squeak-dev image the main download link puts way too much
power in the hands of one person; dictating their personal IDE
preferences to entire future Squeak generations.

The possible Squeak-destinations are too varied, *vanilla* should
remain as the official starting point that people download.

The real goal here is "more visibility", not easier access.  And, even
if easier-access is the goal then solve it at the consuming side, not
the producing side.

Afterall, developers are savvy enough to handle that anyway, and it
gets newbies on board with the idea that the "scenery" in the Squeak
world can and will vary widely.

Thanks,
  Chris

On 7/9/07, Hilaire Fernandes <hilaire at ofset.org> wrote:
> So, are there any reason the download link at the top right should not
> point to squeak-dev regularly-updated and useful-for-developer image ?
>
> After all for educative use, people should just be pointed to
> SqueakLand, right?
>
>
> Hilaire
>
> Serge Stinckwich a écrit :
> > mmille10 at comcast.net a écrit :
> >> "And to think, just yesterday there was a complaint that Squeak-dev
> >> (and  SqueakLight) were too visible and caused confusion about what
> >> was official."
> >>
> >> I had the thought that what might help is to categorize the downloads.
> >> I was thinking for the current official version, squeak.org could put
> >> it under "Education and Multimedia -- eToys, audio, video, Alice, 3D
> >> graphics". The developer image could be on the same page, categorized
> >> under "Seaside", and maybe "Smalltalk Coders/Hackers images", to make
> >> it more clear that this category is targeted at those who want to work
> >> on web projects, or at a lower level in the system. Each could provide
> >> a link for further explanation, talking about what each can be used
> >> for, if that seems necessary. Some visual cues would help, I'm sure,
> >> like showing a screenshot of what eToys looks like in the official
> >> version, with the classic "driving the car" demo.
> >
> >
> > Yes i agree about the categorization, but why categorize the last
> > current official version (3.9) under the category "Education &
> > Multimedia" ? Try to dl the 3.9 version. This is just a developer
> > version without the bells and whistles of the squeak-dev version. The
> > 3.8 could be categorize "Education & multimedia".
> >
> > -- Serge Stinckwich
> > http://doesnotunderstand.free.fr/
> >
> >
> >
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