[ANN] AIDA/Web app server 5.4 beta released on Squeak

Boris Popov boris at deepcovelabs.com
Thu Jun 14 18:27:07 UTC 2007

If I were to ask you to back up your claim on Seaside's 1% or its uselessness which you seem to imply, what evidence would you present to such effect? I've built a somewhat complex and extensible application here with very little effort and I wouldn't classify Dabble DB as being simple either. As matter of fact I can think of a few applications built in Seaside whereas I can't recall speaking with anyone who'd used Aida at all. Just a thought... 



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> -----Original Message-----
> From: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org [mailto:squeak-dev-
> bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] On Behalf Of Janko Mivšek
> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 10:04 AM
> To: The general-purpose Squeak developers list
> Subject: Re: [ANN] AIDA/Web app server 5.4 beta released on Squeak
> Cédrick, just an answer to the last part for now:
> Cédrick Béler wrote:
> > yes but there are always people who ask for REST...  so there is an
> > alternative now (in squeak) and I'm sure it can bring people to seaside
> > either once you're familiar with smalltalk syntax... and maybe for web
> > site not highly dynamic, AIDA seems to me a good option...
> > to sum up my feelings:
> > complex web application -> seaside
> > dynamic site -> AIDA
> Aida is definitively able to deal with complex app development as good
> as Seaside if not even better. That's not only my observation anymore,
> that's a feeling and also an experience of others too, who already tried
> both.
> What I usually say is that Seaside is good for 1% of web app when Aida
> is good for 99% of the rest of that app, while with a little more effort
> it can make that 1% too. And I'm talking here about complex web apps!
> Seaside is designed from start for that 1% but web reality is that you
> need to support other 99% well too and here it seems that Seaside is not
> able to follow, probably because of design which lies on continuations
> too much.
> Best regards
> Janko
> --
> Janko Mivšek
> AIDA/Web
> Smalltalk Web Application Server
> http://www.aidaweb.si

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