Paying for projects

Damien Cassou damien.cassou at
Thu Jun 28 07:37:05 UTC 2007


I think it's a good idea. Your project list might be of interest for
everyone, so why not sending it to the main mailing list?


2007/6/27, J J <azreal1977 at>:
>  Hi all,
> As you have probably seen, I see a lot of things I want to see done in
> Smalltalk, but I don't have time to do any of it.  My "eyes are bigger then
> my stomach" as it were.  So it occurred to me today that a possible solution
> to this problem would be to simply pay to have some of the work done.
> So to that end, I would like anyone who would be interested to let me know.
> I will set up a mailing list for any people would want to be take (or give)
> projects.  I will suggest my project on the list, you can answer me
> privately (or publicly) with your bids.  I will select someone, and publicly
> announce that it has been filled.  After that it depends; we can talk
> publicly over the list, or use an intermediate like rentacoder [1] to ensure
> that both sides are safe.  That is, I don't want to pay if I can't use the
> finished product, nor do I want the person doing the work to fear that they
> may get nothing for it.
> We can negotiate the different things, time frames, price, features.  I
> mostly only be doing smallish projects.  The payouts would probably be on
> the order of $50 - $100 USD but the projects should be small (and often) as
> well.  And if this catches on, there could be much bigger projects or people
> may chip in to sweeten some of the more interesting pots.
> Some people have expressed concerns about bounties in the past that people
> might have their feelings hurt if they don't get picked.  So I would just
> like to point out, this has nothing to do with the board or anything else.
> This is just something I wanted to do.  I will choose the person the same
> way any worker is chosen for a given, i.e. the best
> fit/price/availability/reputation.
> The payout will work in the same way it's done on rentacoder:  We have a bid
> off for who will do the job, negotiate the parameters and pick the best
> overall fit, then you do the work, then when it's finished if I accept you
> are paid.  If I don't accept you can try to bring it up to spec, decide to
> give up, or ask for an arbitration if you think you have met requirements.
> In the case of the rentacoder site, the payment money is deposited as soon
> as I accept a bidder so no one can "take their ball and go home".
> I'm a big experimenter so many of the projects may be that you get paid and
> then never hear anything more (because I decide I don't want to go that way
> after all).  But hopefully the money can soften that blow a little. :)
> And lastly, I know Squeak is largely a gift community, and I don't want to
> upset that.  I think it is good that people give things to the community
> (and I will most likely release everything I pay for).  I don't want to
> create a situation where everyone expects to be paid for everything.  This
> is simply a case that I have not managed to get anyone interested in my
> ideas by talking, I can't realize them myself (this decade anyway), so my
> last option is to pay.
> Thanks,
> Jason
> [1]  The advantage of using rentacoder as an intermediate is that it's
> established, and everyone will see the projects so it will be more smalltalk
> exposure.
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