Paying for projects

Sebastian Sastre ssastre at seaswork.com
Thu Jun 28 11:57:42 UTC 2007


Sounds great Jason. 
 
    I wish we can have hundreds of experimenters with, primary courage and
secondary intelligent use of resources, to have initiatives like yours,
 
    all the best in your quest,
 
Sebastian Sastre

 


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De: squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org
[mailto:squeak-dev-bounces at lists.squeakfoundation.org] En nombre de J J
Enviado el: Miércoles, 27 de Junio de 2007 18:37
Para: squeak-dev at lists.squeakfoundation.org
Asunto: Paying for projects


Hi all,

As you have probably seen, I see a lot of things I want to see done in
Smalltalk, but I don't have time to do any of it.  My "eyes are bigger then
my stomach" as it were.  So it occurred to me today that a possible solution
to this problem would be to simply pay to have some of the work done.

So to that end, I would like anyone who would be interested to let me know.
I will set up a mailing list for any people would want to be take (or give)
projects.  I will suggest my project on the list, you can answer me
privately (or publicly) with your bids.  I will select someone, and publicly
announce that it has been filled.  After that it depends; we can talk
publicly over the list, or use an intermediate like rentacoder [1] to ensure
that both sides are safe.  That is, I don't want to pay if I can't use the
finished product, nor do I want the person doing the work to fear that they
may get nothing for it.

We can negotiate the different things, time frames, price, features.  I
mostly only be doing smallish projects.  The payouts would probably be on
the order of $50 - $100 USD but the projects should be small (and often) as
well.  And if this catches on, there could be much bigger projects or people
may chip in to sweeten some of the more interesting pots.

Some people have expressed concerns about bounties in the past that people
might have their feelings hurt if they don't get picked.  So I would just
like to point out, this has nothing to do with the board or anything else.
This is just something I wanted to do.  I will choose the person the same
way any worker is chosen for a given, i.e. the best
fit/price/availability/reputation.

The payout will work in the same way it's done on rentacoder:  We have a bid
off for who will do the job, negotiate the parameters and pick the best
overall fit, then you do the work, then when it's finished if I accept you
are paid.  If I don't accept you can try to bring it up to spec, decide to
give up, or ask for an arbitration if you think you have met requirements.
In the case of the rentacoder site, the payment money is deposited as soon
as I accept a bidder so no one can "take their ball and go home".

I'm a big experimenter so many of the projects may be that you get paid and
then never hear anything more (because I decide I don't want to go that way
after all).  But hopefully the money can soften that blow a little. :)

And lastly, I know Squeak is largely a gift community, and I don't want to
upset that.  I think it is good that people give things to the community
(and I will most likely release everything I pay for).  I don't want to
create a situation where everyone expects to be paid for everything.  This
is simply a case that I have not managed to get anyone interested in my
ideas by talking, I can't realize them myself (this decade anyway), so my
last option is to pay.

Thanks,
Jason

[1]  The advantage of using rentacoder as an intermediate is that it's
established, and everyone will see the projects so it will be more smalltalk
exposure.


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