Paying for projects
stephane.ducasse at free.fr
Fri Jun 29 06:04:56 UTC 2007
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On 27 juin 07, at 23:37, J J wrote:
> Hi all,
> As you have probably seen, I see a lot of things I want to see done
> in Smalltalk, but I don't have time to do any of it. My "eyes are
> bigger then my stomach" as it were. So it occurred to me today
> that a possible solution to this problem would be to simply pay to
> have some of the work done.
> So to that end, I would like anyone who would be interested to let
> me know. I will set up a mailing list for any people would want to
> be take (or give) projects. I will suggest my project on the list,
> you can answer me privately (or publicly) with your bids. I will
> select someone, and publicly announce that it has been filled.
> After that it depends; we can talk publicly over the list, or use
> an intermediate like rentacoder  to ensure that both sides are
> safe. That is, I don't want to pay if I can't use the finished
> product, nor do I want the person doing the work to fear that they
> may get nothing for it.
> We can negotiate the different things, time frames, price,
> features. I mostly only be doing smallish projects. The payouts
> would probably be on the order of $50 - $100 USD but the projects
> should be small (and often) as well. And if this catches on, there
> could be much bigger projects or people may chip in to sweeten some
> of the more interesting pots.
> Some people have expressed concerns about bounties in the past that
> people might have their feelings hurt if they don't get picked. So
> I would just like to point out, this has nothing to do with the
> board or anything else. This is just something I wanted to do. I
> will choose the person the same way any worker is chosen for a
> given, i.e. the best fit/price/availability/reputation.
> The payout will work in the same way it's done on rentacoder: We
> have a bid off for who will do the job, negotiate the parameters
> and pick the best overall fit, then you do the work, then when it's
> finished if I accept you are paid. If I don't accept you can try
> to bring it up to spec, decide to give up, or ask for an
> arbitration if you think you have met requirements. In the case of
> the rentacoder site, the payment money is deposited as soon as I
> accept a bidder so no one can "take their ball and go home".
> I'm a big experimenter so many of the projects may be that you get
> paid and then never hear anything more (because I decide I don't
> want to go that way after all). But hopefully the money can soften
> that blow a little. :)
> And lastly, I know Squeak is largely a gift community, and I don't
> want to upset that. I think it is good that people give things to
> the community (and I will most likely release everything I pay
> for). I don't want to create a situation where everyone expects to
> be paid for everything. This is simply a case that I have not
> managed to get anyone interested in my ideas by talking, I can't
> realize them myself (this decade anyway), so my last option is to pay.
>  The advantage of using rentacoder as an intermediate is that
> it's established, and everyone will see the projects so it will be
> more smalltalk exposure.
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