Hi,

Thanks again for the link. I'll going the list.

However, what I'm wondering is how the squeak group can set it up so 
it's easy for people to get into 64 bit squeak with a single download 
and NO effort on their part. That's where the value is - making it easy 
for the vast majority. It's why Windows beat Unix (until MacOSX that is) 
- ease of use (and low cost). Squeak clearly has low cost, now it needs 
ease of use in the 64 bit arena. 64 bit open croquet would also rock.

All the best,

Peter



Mathieu Suen wrote:
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> Then you should ask the vm mailing-list:
> http://lists.squeakfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/vm-dev
>
> Cheers
>
>     Mth
>
> On Nov 27, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Peter William Lount wrote:
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>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for the link to the page on 64 bit vms: 
>> http://squeakvm.org/squeak64/faq.html. It's is in need of updating. 
>> MacOSX 10.5.x Leopard needs to be added to the question: "For which 
>> hardware/OS combinations is there a 64-bit VM?".
>>
>> Now that the MacOSX 10.5.x 64 bit Leopard has been released more 
>> people will likely want to use a 64 bit squeak. This version of 
>> MacOSX is the first 64 bit OS that will go big time (ok there is 
>> vista too which this also applies to).
>>
>> How does the mac vm .app file get created? how does one create a 64 
>> bit version? Who builds the mac version?
>>
>> It would be better than nice if there was an official 64 bit download 
>> for Mac and Vista. 64 bits are becoming popular and it's important to 
>> get on the band wagon in terms of letting people easily download it 
>> without having to generate their own vm's and images. Can we add 
>> these as standard builds from now on please? Who makes the standard 
>> vm builds for the Mac and Windows?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Peter
>
>>
>> Mathieu Suen wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I think your may find your answer here:
>>> http://squeakvm.org/squeak64/faq.html
>>>
>>> HTH
>>>
>>> On Nov 27, 2007, at 11:19 AM, Peter William Lount wrote:
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>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone created a 64 bit Squeak VM and image for Intel MacOSXdot5
>>>> Leopard? If so where is it? I couldn't find it at
>>>> http://squeakvm.org/squeak64.
>>>>
>>>> Is the latest mac vm both 32 bit and 64 bit?
>>>>
>>>> How does the mac vm get created? How is that different than 
>>>> creating a unix vm or a pc vm?
>>>>
>>>> Is there a 64 bit image created for each published image? If not, 
>>>> why not? If not then how about putting a menu option so it's easy 
>>>> to generate a 64 bit image (or 32 bit image for that matter) from 
>>>> the current image? That would be cool to be able to have it 
>>>> transform in both directions... and to be easy for novices without 
>>>> having to think about the process... which is really only for us 
>>>> uber technies anyhow.
>>>>
>>>> MacOSX 10.5 is now 64 bits. We need to show off the 64 bit 
>>>> smalltalk to the world. Can it be done with one FAT binary or with 
>>>> two apps?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Peter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Mth
>>>
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