On 31.03.2008, at 17:10, Nikolay Suslov wrote:
> Bert,
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> Please, could you be more concrete, what means: "people do for fun"?  
> (CADT - is not an explanation ..as it is joking)
> I could argue that the all significant projects were doing by people  
> not for getting "fun" from the "developement or any other  
> process" (aka "masturbation", if seriously),
> but with the generous, unselfish ideas of  "changing the around  
> world" and continuing themeselves in project's "childs".
> Don't think that all people just working for money or for "fun"  
> while eating chocolate, gaming and drinking beer after work.. and  
> believe, that nothing "fun" for the rest of the world couldn't be  
> expected from such work (paid or unpaid)..

I was not implying that - I was referring to the many abandoned  
projects, not the active, flourishing ones. Again, Marcus would have  
to be more specific what specifically he had in mind. One example of  
"the perfect is the enemy of the good" are the series of JIT compiler  
implementations, none of which were finished, so Squeak still pretty  
much has the same interpreter it had ten years ago. The positive way  
of expressing CADT would be "burn the disk packs" and in particular in  
a research environment that is indeed the best you can do. It's simply  
a different motivation - do you build to have, or do you build to  
know? The latter does not require completion to be successful.

- Bert -

> Best regards,
> Nikolay Suslov
>
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> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Bert Freudenberg <bert at freudenbergs.de 
> > wrote:
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> Well, Marcus would have to answer that himself. But there are a lot on
> unfinished projects around Squeak, like the half dozen or so GUI
> builders, and you can certainly think of more. OTOH this problem is
> not specific to Squeak, it is just the reality of a lot of unpaid
> development work which people do for fun, a.k.a. CADT:
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>        http://www.jwz.org/doc/cadt.html
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> - Bert -
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