[squeak-dev] Re: What Constitutes a Complete and Final Release?

Klaus D. Witzel klaus.witzel at cobss.com
Sat Apr 5 10:03:48 UTC 2008


On Sat, 05 Apr 2008 07:50:56 +0200, tim Rowledge wrote:

> On 4-Apr-08, at 9:18 PM, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>>
>>> *You lot* get to do the actual work. Until and unless you provide  
>>> funds to pay a team....
>>
>> How do you mean that, perhaps in the sense of "give money and receive a  
>> guarantee that something will be done somehow"?
>
> Unless someone works out a way to have a paid team to do all the work  
> people want done

Tim, are these just your words, or more a proposal to potential donators.  
And if so, what does the board say to this?

> then *you lot* - all the users of Squeak - have to communally do the  
> work.
>
> On 4-Apr-08, at 10:18 PM, Andreas Raab wrote:
>>
>> tim Rowledge wrote:
>>> On 4-Apr-08, at 8:49 PM, Klaus D. Witzel wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me that the board has a problem here, with both 3.9 and  
>>>> 3.10 :(
>>> Well, no. It's not the board that has any sort of problem;
>>
>> Well, yes. It is the board's problem if it assumes the authority to  
>> decide on the release team (which it has). Half-finished results of a  
>> release team *are* the board's problem. It is not the boards task to  
>> fix the ftp directory on the server; it's the boards task to fix the  
>> process that led to selecting a team that doesn't get that job done. If  
>> the board isn't capable of doing that, then it has a *big* problem in  
>> my understanding.
>
> Sadly, the board can't conscript people - not in this universe anyway.  
> Unless we magically find that way to have a paid team  etc etc. then  
> *you lot* have to step forward in sufficient numbers to do the work. The  
> last two releases have been shouldered by a tiny number of people who  
> got rewarded with complaints for their efforts.
>
> If you want it done, volunteer to help. If you want to complain... go  
> away.
>
> tim
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