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>  On 8-Apr-08, at 3:09 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
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> > On 07.04.2008, at 17:02, tim Rowledge wrote:
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> > > I think there is a bit of a logical problem here ins that if the system
> *didn't* have 'all that junk' the immediate result would be complaints that
> 'it doesn't have all that useful stuff like other systems'.
> > >
> >
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> > IMHO in other systems the 'junk' is simply not that much in-your-face as
> in the SystemBrowser. It's hidden in library code that you never look at
> except for its documented API.
> >
>
>  Interesting way of looking at it. Perhaps it might be sensible to have a
> browser for typical use that shows much less detail of the 'kernel' classes
> so as to cause less fear and concern for less experienced developers. We did
> something along those lines for LearningWorks with reasonable success.

+1