On Apr 8, 2008, at 6:03 PM, cdrick wrote:
>>
>>  On 8-Apr-08, at 3:09 PM, Bert Freudenberg wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 07.04.2008, at 17:02, tim Rowledge wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think there is a bit of a logical problem here ins that if the  
>>>> system
>> *didn't* have 'all that junk' the immediate result would be  
>> complaints that
>> 'it doesn't have all that useful stuff like other systems'.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> IMHO in other systems the 'junk' is simply not that much in-your- 
>>> face as
>> in the SystemBrowser. It's hidden in library code that you never  
>> look at
>> except for its documented API.
>>>
>>
>>  Interesting way of looking at it. Perhaps it might be sensible to  
>> have a
>> browser for typical use that shows much less detail of the  
>> 'kernel' classes
>> so as to cause less fear and concern for less experienced  
>> developers. We did
>> something along those lines for LearningWorks with reasonable  
>> success.
>
> +1

I hate to add more noise to this, but +1 from me, too.  It'd be  
interesting if the entire initial Squeak image UI could be made to  
feel more like a "traditional" language IDE by default where you  
primarily see *your* project code/classes with everything else  
available by more indirect means.

l8r
Sean