[squeak-dev] Install on Debian / Ubuntu binary-amd64

Philippe Marschall philippe.marschall at gmail.com
Thu Apr 24 04:46:17 UTC 2008


2008/4/24, Miguel Cobá <m.coba.m at gmail.com>:
> Then you can show them how enterprisey is Sun for not having an amd64 port
> for the java plugin:
>
> http://bugs.sun.com/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4802695
>
> Or maybe this for adobe flash:
>
> http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/whats_so_difficult_64bit_editi.html

Which both ain't server software.

Philippe

>  So, man, don't give up. Keep trying, use virtualbox on your amd64 machine
> and install a 32bits debian or use a chroot and *develop*
> your application. When you have it right show it to the managers, not the
> sysadmins. Convince them of the advantages, of the fact that you alone built
> that preciouse app and that if they support you, you can take them to the
> forbes 100 with just a pair of great smalltalk/squeak/seaside develpers, a
> couple of months and a simple call to the sysadmin to install a chroot in
> his beloved amd64 machine. Maybe, if you use sweet words the manager approve
> the money for a brand new machine where the sysadmin should have to install
> a chroot to host your marvelous app. You see, with a bit of effor you will
> have your own server. The sky is the limit.
>
> Cheers,
> Miguel Cobá
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Edward Stow <ed.stow at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez
> > <m.coba.m at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > >  I use squeak inside a chroot as per instructions here:
> > >
> > >
> http://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html
> > >
> > >  as there is no 64 bit perfect setup for squeak
> > >
> > >  I installed squeak inside the chroot with the repositories from
> squeak.org
> > > (section other OSes)
> > >
> > >  hope this help
> >
> > Yes is does -- it does confirm that a simple install is not available
> > for amd64 architecture.  By simple, I mean  sudo apt-get install
> > squeak.
> >
> > And it doesn't.  I have a hard time convincing my sys admins and their
> > bosses to take seriously a package that does not have a
> > straightforward install process on 64 bit machines.
> >
> > chroot'ing in their words is for 'legacy and un-supported systems that
> > should not be installed on a production server.'
> >
> > I am trying to set up a demonstration server that will allow squeak
> > with seaside to be considered a viable alternative.  I should say that
> > I'm not a sys admin and am feeling very frustrated with the lack of
> > installable options.
> >
> > So please ... could those that maintain the debian and / or other os
> > vms create an installable 64 bit deb and / or rpm.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > --
> >
> > Edward Stow
> >
> >
>
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