> Maybe, but that depends. I still think that it's hard for beginners starting with 3.10 
> (or Squeakers who do not regulary scan Mantis/dev list or know about Installer) 
> to be faced with a problematic image after loading FFI...
>
> Bye
> Torsten
>   
I think that we/someone is confusing things here. In one breath we ask 
the release team to provide a minimal image in which as many packages as 
possible are removed. In the next we complain when total beginners are 
not able to build their own custom images perfectly from scratch with 
one click, or must learn a command line tool.

As far as I know the intention all along has been for the base image to 
get smaller, and for derived images to be built from that base image 
using scripts. The process of supplying working derived images for 
beginners to play with was something that members of the community would 
be expected to do at their leisure. So far we have several, squeak-dev, 
squeak-web and FunSqueak. "Installer" of course makes this process much 
easier, and http://installer.pbwiki.com/ provides a place for publishing 
such scripts.

Sure we would like to have our cake (the small image) and eat it (build 
derived images with one click), but the 3.10 release team picked 
Universes to perform this task rather than Installer, so 3.10 doesnt 
come with an up to date Installer or instructions on how to use it. 
Universes can be persuaded to work in theory, but someone needs to 
actually do it. I myself preferred to put my effort into Sake/Packages 
in order to replace Universes in 3.11. Matthew has been trying to ensure 
that as many SqueakMap packages as possible actually load.

cheers

Keith