2008/8/31 Edgar J. De Cleene <edgardec2001 at yahoo.com.ar>:
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> El 8/31/08 11:06 AM, "nicolas cellier" <ncellier at ifrance.com> escribió:
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>> I don't understand this.
>> Concerning harvesting team, age and wisdom are required qualities for at
>> least one member, and having a master in such team would not hurt, would it?
> I meaning in the past , many who begins with Squeak only need hit the
> updates button.
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> Now , seems people need more.
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> You and lots of people do a terrific work in Mantis.
> Mantis is a tool still all need learn how to use , until some better tool
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Concerning Mantis. Take a look at Seaside people, who using a
code.google to track issues.
Choosing and migrating to new issue tracker could help , but only if
we will be sure that we will not end up with a tons of reported bugs
which no-one cares to fix and review.

One of idea to make use of Mantis more convenient is to create a bug
fixes hubs and collect all fixes in them, so instead of doing
search/filtering on issues by category, you simply open a report named
'fixes included into Squak X.Y.unstable', where everyone could see a
progress and ask to test/include own fix.

>> It seems to me that PBwiki does have some filter at next level, though I
>> did not understand exactly the process for moving changes from Unstable
>> to Stable branch.
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>> And PBWiki relaxes a bit the hard job of reviewing/harvesting patches
>> from mantis, using a more collaborative way.
>> Installer and PBWiki are just tools for harvesters, like mantis is. They
>> help working around some of the mantis problems.
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> It's not bad do all kinds of experiments, I doing all the time.
> When at some point we discover our mistakes, we should recognize and go back
> to the right way.
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> But Squeak is about objects, I believe.
> For scripting , many others languages like Perl exist.
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> Ralph teach me to avoid Doits and all should go to  Classes and Methods.
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> I made tons of mistakes in 3dot10 !
> Take two releases all know Monticello could't manage a complete release.
> I very confident in Monticello 2 and maybe some of DeltaStreams could do the
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> Sure Test is not a silver bullet, but is some useful.
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> And we are people , not computers , so at some point we should made hand
> work.
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> Edgar
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Igor Stasenko AKA sig.