I should also clarify - we (Cincom) do not own the IP rights for VSE  
(Seagull out of Holland does).  As an artifact of the sale of VW to  
Cincom, we inherited the same rights that ObjectShare had.  Meaning,  
we can sell maintenance agreements and we can release bug fixes, but  
we can't do more than that.

In terms of being able to make VSE open source, or give it away, we  
simply do not own the rights that would allow us to make any decision  
(for or against) in that regard.

On Jun 9, 2008, at 4:44 AM, Rob Vens wrote:

> Visual Smalltalk (Enterprise)? Is that available? (Cincom?)
>
> 2008/6/8 Marcus Denker <denker at iam.unibe.ch>:
>> Hi,
>>
>> We are now putting together the DVD for ESUG 08. We'l start with  
>> the DVD07
>> and update everything.
>>
>>     - If you missed something on last  year's DVD, please tell us!
>>     - Vendors or Open Source Projects can provide a complete  
>> directory
>> (with html and installer),
>>       if they want. (We actually would prefer that... you can do a  
>> much
>> better job in presenting than we!).
>>
>> Deadline is July, 20th, 2008.
>>
>> Directory structure for now:
>>
>> AmbraiSmalltalk
>> Logos+Graphics
>> Strongtalk
>> Books-Tutorial-Lectures
>> Moose
>> VASmalltalk
>> Dolphin
>> Seaside
>> Videos
>> FScript
>> Self
>> VisualWorks7.5nc
>> GNUSmalltalk
>> SmalltalkMT
>> GemStone
>> SmalltalkX
>> Historical
>>       -AppleSmalltalk
>>       -SharpSmalltalk
>>       -pocketst
>> Squeak
>>       BotsInc
>>       Scratch
>>       BuccaneerWin
>>       Sophie
>>       squeak3.10alpha
>>       Croquet
>>       SqueakDev
>>       squeak3.9
>>       Historical
>>       Plopp3d
>>       SuperSwiki
>>
>>
>>       Marcus
>> --
>> Marcus Denker  --  denker at iam.unibe.ch
>> http://www.iam.unibe.ch/~denker
>>
>>
>>
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